The Interval

Jeane’s dreams explore the territory of an inner space, which we can connect to, that offers guidance and knowings. So often we are too noisy in ourselves to connect to this deep reservoir. We have to let go of our patterns of reactivity with which we try to manage the outer world, and begin to listen to the inner voice that knows much more than we do. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

Jeane: I think I remember my last two dreams best. In one of them I remember part of it because it was like several of us, and we seem like we’re older kids, are going out and playing in a swimming pool – but nobody’s watching.

This girl I know, and I, we tend to be doing these really high acrobatics, almost like off first or second stories or something, into the swimming pool; kind of learning how to jump down from great heights, or swimming down from great heights, or float down from great heights.

It’s like we can do some unusual things, and go into the water, but we only do them maybe when we’re around, when the kids are around, or one or two of us are around. I just remember that we were doing these unusual things around the water and so the water was important to us.

But then it’s like I’m going to have to move neighborhoods.

John: But you’re only doing those things when no one was watching you?

Jeane: No, maybe just when the other kids were around, not when adults or anybody else was around.

John: There’s an effect that is happening inside one’s self that has qualities, and characteristics, and mannerisms, in terms of its dexterity and what it’s about and what it can do, which isn’t something that is done collectively. It’s a dexterity, it’s a quality, it’s a trait that you can catch up with inside of you, but it doesn’t readily show or make itself apparent in the outer.

In other words, this is kind of an inner into outer thing, or something that exists from being able to hold a space inside one’s self, and the dreaming is about this space, this interval, qualities and characteristics of what becomes possible when one is able to stay and come from this interval of where the inner turns to the outer.

The consequences and result of what can happen there, is not readily apparent to others. And they have no cognition, or recognition, of it because it’s coming from somewhere that isn’t visible. You hold that space, and you act from that, and you take on a consequence that, as it occurs in life, it’s not necessarily understood, it’s not necessarily recognized, it can be somewhat apparent to you in terms of a recognition and realization in an after-the-fact manner.

But at the time that it happens it’s only amongst those that are of like nature, just like that which comes through from within can have a particular tremendous value in terms of its overallness and that that is now getting extended so it can now run its whole motif in an even longer consequence way, from within.

However, when it’s turned over to that which is in the outer, the effect gets blurred way, way down to something that’s pretty minuscule in terms of its effect and importance, in terms of changing or doing anything of any real consequence.

But the whole nighttime effect of the other, that goes beyond what you can put your finger on in terms of understanding, is likened to how the inner is able to function compared to how the outer is able to function in its much reduced capacity.

It’s like everything is from inner into outer and it really comes from that depths of the space, of the secret of secret spots, that is located where the in-breath turns to the out-breath, and then that which you can really look at and visualize and play with and try to make sense out of reflectively has this real minimal effect, and you don’t have much to do with that, very, very little to do with that.

Jeane: Then I think the dream shifts and it feels like I have to go with my family. They moved to another city. This city is on the water, so instead of just a swimming pool now I’m going to be moving to a place on the shore of what seems like a pretty big body of water.

I go to play with the other kids there, and there’s this wonderful water to dive into and play in, but they also have deep underwater sunken houses. One of the games, kind of almost like an initiation, they play is that maybe you’re supposed to swim into some of those houses and even go see what’s at the bottom of the stairway and stuff, but I feel like I’m probably going to be too claustrophobic or chicken to do that.

John: When you take and you’re going out and you’re playing with the other kids there’s not much meaning, there’s not much interest, other than probing the depths of yourself, which is like going to who you – are as a house underwater.

That’s kind of like the effect that you sort out in terms of how you are in the outer, and if you sort that out in the outer, that can slingshot you to catching up with who you are on the inner. And who you are in the outer is just a reflective thing – it’s not who you are on the inner. But by going to the depths inside of you, you’re able to pull down the recognition of where it really is coming from, as it’s streaming in from the inner.

Jeane: Then it feels like I’ve moved into a house with the dad in my dreams, because I’m a younger person, and I discover this house is haunted. And it’s haunted by a woman who sings. Sometimes if I peek around the corner I can see her floating up in the air and she’s like an opera singer.

There are other times when she comes around and there are certain things she wants. It’s almost like she wants me to dress a little more femininely. When I go out to the department store I find myself looking at this shelf with different kinds of bedroom slippers which are all kind of feminine and different colors.

But it’s a sale table so I’m having trouble finding something I really like. I’m wondering which ones even she would approve of, and there’s several scenes in the house where I kind of peek around a corner, or I find certain things happening, just because there is a ghost. And she likes to sing and she’s kind of feminine and it’s kind of interesting for me.

John: It’s showing that you have this connection on an inner level. What pulls this out is the recognition, as the teacher would describe, he can feel or get a sense of something. He does this through the heart, and the quality where the heart resonates a breakthrough. It’s like a tap on the head or something, so he’s able to see and help recognize and come from a knowingness inside of himself that way – and that incorporates a type of listening center.

What that means to you is, you have kind of an access to some sense that you have inside of you that is of a sensitivity nature. In other words, it’s not just that which goes on in the dense outer. And so the closest that you can come to realizing that, is that you can let go of a certain self image that you might have by being able to access this quality that you can feel as a sense inside of you.

And when you do that it supports pulling you together in terms of the inner connection. It knows how you are able to become and be more feminine in your nature. Actually, being more feminine in one’s nature is to actually be able to touch the beauty that lies within, that sparkles within, which is the spirit energy that is trapped within matter.

And of course rather than say it that way, you’re saying that you’re subtle senses are such that you’re able to recognize a listening center that some consider as haunting, but you I guess could call it like that because you create the image of that, but it’s really something that you know how to reach and that you can access that is helping giving you information. Just like a person can take and find a power animal in the shamanistic tradition, and that too can take and have some constructive purpose, up to some degree, in terms of working with earth energy.

And the ability to recognize something that is still floating around, that is opening up in terms of a spirit energy that is trapped, just like it is trapped in you in terms of within the matter of your being, and has within it an understanding and a sight that takes in what it is that you can have access to – if you allow yourself, or if something about your nature is such that you can come to pick this up.

It is kind of saying that you have that type of insight. You have the sensitivity to have that type of insight, and you’re doing it in what seems to be the smooth way. A lot of people when they have that sort of thing affecting them they’re not sure if they aren’t a little crazy as a consequence of it, because it doesn’t seem part of ordinary experience. But in your particular case you’re able to recognize that it’s okay and it can be a little haunting or something, but it is helping you to understand something. It is showing you something.

Another thing that can influence something like that is pondering the effect of archetypal influence upon one’s nature, and I guess you could say that this is akin to something like that in that the archetypal influences can either completely distort and control you, or they can become something that causes you to have a recognition in a subtler way.


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