Jeane has a dream that feels to her like a shamanic journey. What that triggers in John is the understanding that there are many paths back to God, yet some are more planetary than others. Many speak of reincarnation as the goal of a path, yet the creator wants more from us. All paths can be fine at a certain point in a journey, but it’s good to understand what has been chosen. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)
Jeane: Then the rest of the dreams I only remember the first one, but I think they were all about shamanic journeying. And the first one’s a very simple journey where I go somewhere and bring something back, and then there’s a discussion going on about what was brought back, or how to use it, or whether to bring back this or that or how to use it.
I just remember there was a discussion going on about that, and everything was kind of green. Then I know there was more dreams along that theme that I didn’t pull out.
John: Well, one has to be a little bit careful with this because even what was pointed out the other day is that the shamanic… the most significant thing he said, is that when someone asks him some question about karma and reincarnation, he pointed out that it’s his experience that this is a type of process that almost guarantees that you reincarnate back.
In other words, you kind of come back even within a known tradition mannerism, almost as if you’re picking up the thread of a whole shamanic aspect. And the better that you get at this, the more obvious it is to you that you’re coming back, filling a void, or a need of something, in a very dynamic way that is a continuation of something from the past.
He kind of goes about proving this, or establishing this, by describing a little bit of the shamanic mannerism and how it varies just a little bit in indigenous cultures, whereby it has a certain schematic or theme or feature to it, and that a shaman can come back and accentuate the name of that theme, or of that personage, or of that lineage aspect.
So you have to be cognizant that this is actually an in-between step. This is not necessarily the emptiness. What is enticing and teasing about it is that there is a certain flow to it. There is a certain sense of a greater connectivity and knowingness that you can access in terms of how and what you are.
He indicates that once one has made such a connection, they can go into it at ease. It’s almost as if the difficulty is the first goal, and then once you’ve done it, you have kind of put yourself into that – as if it’s a kind of permanent perpetual trance connection.
That’s the shamanic realm in relationship to creation. But there is something more in relationship to the creator. Everything that he described has to do with knowing things in terms of the unfoldment, although that is a path that can take an even bigger step because he indicates that he can take and look and see what it will be like. In other words, what it’s about on the other side a little bit, in other words pay it forward, fast forward in terms of his unfoldment.
And from that he doesn’t indicate that he sees anything that doesn’t mean that he comes back. He keeps seeing that you come back. You come back just with a greater attunement that is, and the attunement is always for the benefit and the service of mankind. And if you go off and you try to utilize it in some capacity on your own, you will lose it, or it kind of goes away from you. Very interesting.
The teacher talks about a person evolving, and that you might say is an understanding that has a shamanic correlation to it. However, the difference and the distinction is, and that’s why you have to be kind of careful with what you’re drawn to, is that even though this can give you a sense of flow and mannerism that makes things flow better, feel better, there’s still much more than just that.
In your particular case it seems like you’re drawn to that, and it’s just like when he talks about the journey of the soul, where there are certain people that get caught that have to work within the Jinn world more than others, because they have spent so much time there. And so they still have a process that then, as they’re making the journey, they go through that process.
It’s like a hiccup. It’s like you accentuate something there that you let go of. It’s actually not a bad thing because there are skills and talents and qualities that exist there, but it does give you a certain degree of pause, just like a person who is on other spiritual paths that only go so far – they develop traits and tendencies and qualities that seem to be rooted in that sort of thing and that holds them back for gosh knows, who knows how long.
They can be very, very good people, but they’re held back for who knows how long because they have developed so much acuity in this Jinn world drama of things, that how is it possible for them to totally, truly let go and actually be in a state that is truly outside of the conceptualization, in every regard, of duality?
If you look at these people closely they are like Jinns. They’re very neat, they’re very neat, but they only can go so far in terms of the acuity that they have in this quality way, or this character way, and we’re not like that necessarily.
I mean, one has traits of that, but one can hear something pulling in some other capacity. It’s like it’s getting louder and louder and louder in me, and that’s why the distinction in the dreaming where I struggle, and fight, and act like something ominous is going to happen. This came over me when I first went to college. It’s like I knew something; I knew that there was going to be a time in the future when everything was going to speed up and that if I was not prepared I was going to have lots of problems.
And so I used to do all kinds of things to try to prepare for that, because I could feel it in the bones. It was way premature. I mean, I even didn’t know how many years it would be in the future. I just knew it was there.
And so I used to stay up late and talk to people and grasp to catch up and things, because I saw myself as out of twang, out of balance. And then, when something didn’t click, because I had a sense of something coming, but it wasn’t quite the timing yet, I fell back into just dealing with things in life, almost as if it was a step back, because this other wasn’t there.
And so that caused me to have the sensation that I was, in one sense, declaring war on God the fact that I was doing that, because I felt this other so ominously in my bones. And now I’m back to that, and when I’m back to that a lot of things bother me.
And now it correlates to the fact that there seems to be things out of twang that doesn’t even know that it’s out of twang. It’s just that you have to feel in the bones something that propels beyond just that, that you don’t settle for that. There is a power there that you need to catch up with yet but you have to be careful with that that you don’t suddenly take that on as a blanket or a jacket of security.
You seem to be presented with this idea, this mannerism, of looking for a type of sense of cadence security, and it might be scary if you actually found it because you could stop.
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