All Roads

by mario837
by mario837

Here John’s dream causes him to ponder the subtle differences of different religious teachings. Each has it’s own view of things and puts emphasis on different aspects, but all of them point to a journey that each human needs to make, by choice. In a sense, there are as many paths to God as there are people. It would be impossible for two people to do it in exactly the same way. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

John: Previously, the way it’s generally characterized as a process is that you polish the heart and you go through sorting things out, that you have the outer reflections and then you have the dreamworld which has a faster inner reflection. And, in terms of sorting all of that out, you get towards what is the pure light that you don’t actually physically see.

And then you contend with all of these different states; states meaning all of the different things that you have to go through in the outer, or patterns you repeat over and over and over again, and slowly learn in kind of almost a quasi-Pavlovian way. And you gain kind of what’s considered a type of understanding there, in terms of what is okay, or what isn’t okay, in terms of how you beat yourself up and such.

And then on the inner reflections, as you’re dreaming, you don’t have the density of something with the senses accentuated so you can kind of have a little bit better proximity to what is happening and therefore can use that dreamworld to burn off the dross of some pattern if you can catch up with the vibration that sits behind the dream – of like the higher self or whatever, the quality of the soul behind all of that. And you can glean it, and bring it down, and bring it through. 

So initially what you’re doing is you’re going along with growing, by way of reflection, but what started to be pondered was, there’s one word in here that’s kind of used all the time in terms of this process and that is that you’re growing by way of reflection. So if it’s a reflection, and you’re dealing with reflections that are getting subtler and subtler and subtler all the time, who’s to say, or what’s to say, that you haven’t gone off on some little bitty deviation?

For example, just within Sufism you have the Naqshbands doing a dhikr one way and the Chistis doing it another way. And you have Christianity and it has its idea of afterlife and such, and then you have the Hindu and the Buddhist and all of them kind of have a similitude in terms of what the process of realization, I guess would be a word, is about but their process can be a little bit different. 

So, initially, in a dream, I was looking at this as if it was like a test. In other words, it’s like in a dream it starts off where I didn’t take the test, this particular test, at the same time that everybody else took the test. And these other people that took the test are fairly well-known people. I mean they could have been Buddha, Krishna, and Rama, and so on.

And out of that is a whole tradition and understanding that has evolved, and they each answered, let’s say, 100 questions. And they each got it as good as you can get it, with each having maybe two questions that would be treated a little differently, but ended up getting through this process of reflection and reflection, and ended up getting fairly close to what it’s all about, to 100%.

But they each varied a tiny bit just, like in the example between the Naqshband and the Chistis, you use the breath a little differently. You know, it’s “al” on the out-breath, “lah” on the in-breath for the Naqshband, and then it’s “al” on the in-breath, and “lah” on the out-breath.

Technically there is reflective experience there that gets you to the same place, almost as if the flip side is the same coin. Another thing that I noticed was with the Naqshbands you don’t have ceremonies, you don’t have music, you’re not told anything in terms of distinct practices. You’re supposed to kind of get it or, you know, if you’re suffering away, the word is, he can bear it, kind of thing. 

With the Chistis, as you’re proceeding along, you recognize the contractive forces, and the expansive forces, and you come to identify the nuances in them. And so it’s like a technique that a Chisti will do, a Naqshbandi won’t do this, but a technique that a Chisti will do will in-breath pain, out-breath joy as a means of trying to heal or redeem one’s self.

If you look at this stuff closely you can conclude that maybe we have a problem, and the problem is you have little, subtle deviations. The end result may be the same but maybe skewed, or slanted, or discolored a tiny bit based upon, say, two of the questions answered slightly different. No wrong answer, just a different note or quality.

And then those who have an affinity in that way are drawn to that, and so they evolve as a tariqa, as a sight, in that particular way. And so because I didn’t take this test simultaneously, and we don’t have the setup to give this test like this again, in other words, we don’t have the manifestation upon which one comes and sits down and takes those 100 question tests again.  It can’t be done that way.

And so the way it is done is, on my left hand I have 100 questions, and on my right hand I have a blank sheet of paper and then, because there’s no reflective process to work with, I’m given the answers that Buddha gave, Mohammed gave, Krishna gave, Christ gave, and I’m able to look at those answers and come up with what I want to put down as the answer. 

Now I have the process of life that I’ve gone through that has caused me to develop a certain awareness and whatnot, and I’ve burnt a bit, as the statement would go, so that I supposedly have gleaned some understanding and so I have that as a basis to work with but, you know, I’m going to defer because these people that have taken this test before me, there are some pretty renowned one’s there. 

Of course there’s others that I don’t know, and maybe one of these others that I don’t know maybe there’s a way that I will understand something from somebody even that I don’t know that might be better than the answer that Buddha gave that was slightly different than the way Christ approached it, or whatever.

And so in my sleep I’m thinking, easy peasy, I can cheat. How can I blow this? But when I wake up I realize this is very difficult because it means I have to incorporate the vibratory understanding of the entire tradition and lineage of each, in order to know the subtle distinction that exists in play with each little differentiation in terms of the overall unfoldment.

In other words, because this isn’t the path of just steadily getting better and better and better and better, subtler and subtler and subtler and subtler, this is a path that goes to what? A nonbeing, a nothingness, an emptiness, a stillness. And so if there is some little subtle area that is a little off – and who knows what the word “off” is? – it’s just ever so subtle of a ripple there, then that is going to cause the inflections and reflections to portray slightly differently.

And if you’re following for example a particular tradition, and the tradition is a real tradition and it goes somewhere real, and you need to have that tariqa or tradition in order to extricate yourself from the mundane because you, in and of yourself, are just going to be getting beat up by the density of the senses reflections and this gives you a bit of an advantage. It puts you into a vibratory atmosphere of which you can glean from that atmosphere a greater sight, a greater clarity.

And yet if each of these has little, slight nuances that are off, perhaps, in other words here comes the theory, perhaps, perhaps there’s a flaw to the plan, to the system, the system being that you go through and by reflections in the outer you catch up ultimately to the pure light, or to the total stillness. 

And what I’m seeing is that, it’s as if you could have a failed experiment here.  It’s as if you’ve gone about as far as you can go reflectively, and there’s always a little contamination. It’s as if we’ve come to a door and you jump through this door into a stillness.

Well, I’ve never actually literally done that because if I have something that’s going on in my dream, and I settle back, I’ll get another little subtle aspect to it. In other words, it’ll keep having a quality of getting subtler and subtler evolving in a way. In other words, even dreams that repeat all add some other little component.

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