The spider creates a web that can be imagined as the map of its terrain. When something is ensnared by the stickiness of the web, the spider senses vibrationally that something in its world has changed and goes to investigate. We can treat our psychologies in a similar way by becoming conscious when they get snared in the map of ourselves, by letting go of them, or just staying consciously aware of their outplay, which lessens their impact. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)
John: This next one’s quite a strange story, too. I am with a boy whose father… Actually it starts off with, I’ve been hired as a kind of an investigator or something, and I’m with this family. And it’s a father, a mother, and a son.
And what we’re to do is the father’s been accused of murder. And so we have to see what the evidence is. It’s almost like something’s in a type of amnesia, because why would the father take and want to retrace his steps? I don’t know. I mean, the dream doesn’t say. You wonder, did he actually do something? Or not? Does he actually even know, or is he just playing coy to see if there’s anything that could be used against him?
And so the father and the mother proceed up a particular road, or trail, or route, of the past. And I and the boy, I’m being investigator and I go with the boy who is very, very innocent, and there’s a quality of his innocence that I find interesting. And we go over hill and dale, you know, we don’t go in the road, we go maybe off over hill and dale parallelling the road.
And so, as I’m going with this boy, who’s very innocent, I ask him if there are any ideas he has about the issue. In other words, is there anything he has as a sense because I don’t know about the father, but I know the boy’s innocence, and whether he reflects anything. And he says that nothing could have happened in this particular initial phase of the journey that we’re on, or his spider, which probes out on a web in front of him, would retreat, would retract.
And that makes sense to me. That’s important information; I like that. So we’re able to speed along at a very fast pace. The father and the mother may be on the road, but we’re going over hill and dale just watching the spider knowing that he will give us a head’s up if there is a dead body nearby.
So the meaning is, the boy is an innocence and his purity enables him to free flow without recrimination. Where there is any guilt or repressed beingness the acute senses will mirror this back. The spider detects shadow energy and a repressed Kundalini as it travels through the outer conditions of life. In other words if there’s anything awry, it will leave a stigma in the air.
The deeper meaning is I have access to a sense of knowingness that comes from within, and the boy and spider are the symbolic inflection of that. And the scenario of the past is I used to use astrology to peek through insightfully. I mean, it’s kind of like an excuse, kind of like a ticket. It’d create an inflection and then I could take that inflection even further. The astrology was just kind of like something that opened the window or something, but then all of a sudden everything popped through. But nowadays there is the dream world and more refined correlation.
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Environments are always seeking balance and equilibrium – energetically. If someone new enters a room, or a conversation, it takes a little while for the “space” to readjust. In this dream, which has a huge spider running around, the spider has set something in motion that the dreamer is trying to manage and get back into a state of equilibrium. The repercussions could extend to many places – not all obvious. Still, as a dream, it allows the dreamer to see the task at hand and the underlying decision that looms. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)
Jeane:I just remember the end of my last dream. And in that dream, it feels like I’m living somewhere where when I’ve come out of a building, which might even be a movie theater, when I come out a large spider goes in, and it’s, I think, a black-and-white spider.
I have a sword. And it’s almost like the rules are such that, at some point, if I want to go back in the building I’m going to have to fight this spider. But, meanwhile, you don’t know if the spider has multiplied, or it’s set up traps, or what it’s done. It’s a pretty big spider – it’s about half the size I am.
And, at one point, I even send in a scout. But, as far as I know, the spider could have hidden what it does, or how many other spiders are there now. And then even if you go in and maybe you get that spider, did you get all the spiders, you don’t know. But maybe part of what you have to do is go in and try anyway.
So I’m contemplating about how one does this: does one go in as a whole group? How does one ever get the spiders? Or do you let the spiders take over the building? That doesn’t seem like a solution, either.
John: So what you’re doing is you’re starting with the building which is a stillness. And then you’re leaving the stillness. And, when you leave the stillness, you immediately set in motion, in terms of identification, having left the stillness and having gotten caught into the greater spaciousness of having to figure your way out – in terms of both the timing and the spaciousness.
The thing that I was trying to figure out was, what does this spider represent, in terms of going into the building that you’ve vacated? It involves having to sort things out again. Once you’ve taken and contended, or gotten involved, or gotten yourself sucked into something, meaning you’ve left the stillness, then you have to somehow sort things out, like black-and-white or something.
It’s kind of like you can be going along, I mean, an example of this as an outer effect that does this to you, that portrays Kundalini energy, it has both an inner and outer quality to it; it’s in a state of disarray. It has kind of an outerness that is coming down with its timing sequence of something, it’s seeking to act out in the outer. And then the inner quality that is trying to take on a spaciousness, that can be considered a spider, too.
The way, though, to look at it is instead of saying it like that is to give one more precise example. So when you’re feeling good, let’s say you’re just feeling great, you know, you have no reason or qualms whatsoever, you can say that you’re kind of in a wholeness, or in a oneness. You can feel still, in that way. It’s not that you actually have to do anything.
Then, all of a sudden, you make a decision to do something, or are affected by something, that stirs you from this condition of stillness. And so when you’re stirred from this condition of stillness, you then have to step out; I mean, that’s where an energetic is set in motion. That’s timing, or a thought, or however you want to put it.
When you get in the timing you don’t know the timing because the timing is complete, in and of itself, when it’s in a stillness. But when you’ve moved away from it, then there’s like, oh, a kind of disorientation – there can be moods and everything else that you can’t shake, that’s in the spaciousness now.
And so that can be like that. As soon as you step out, then you’ve got this whole thing in a flux, in a disarray. And how in the dickens do you put the Humpty Dumpty back together again into a stillness?
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When we find ourself in a new situation we test the waters, so to speak, by dipping our toe in. Then, when we realize things are safe, we can proceed deeper into the process. It works just like that for us on an inner level: when we have something new awaken in us, our system needs to test out what the effects are of this new presence. And, ultimately, we are trying to assimilate what has opened up from within into our daily life, so we are seeking to find a new balance and settlement as we continue to progress on our journey. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)
Jeane: Well, this is a dream that has one point or two points in it where it shifts some. In this dream, I’m going to visit the home of a family. There are parents, and they have two sons that are very close in age, like they’re probably high school seniors or young college age.
And the house is very low and spread out, with a basement level as well the ground floor level, and it’s a little bit chaotic in there, just in a sense that sometimes it’s like there’s a lot of different things in the rooms. I remember like later in the dream there’s a time when I was looking for a bathroom and I saw a door and I open it up, and behind the door is something that looks like a cross between a fireplace and a white limestone shrine, it’s been made into a shrine whatever it is.
And some of the rooms are kind of cluttered, but they’re cluttered some way that the mother’s organizing things. And at one point when I’ve gone over the mother wants me to go to the basement and talk to a group there about the trip to India. It’s like when I first go down there’s a few people there, but when I turn around there’s a huge crowd of people – and some of them have broken into small groups.
And I seem to get a little discombobulated and feel like my talk is awkward, which it was. When I talk to the mother about that later she just laughs about it because I had kind of gotten thrown off by how the crowd was, and how it kind of went into these subgroups all over the place, and how it seemed to multiply.
Then there was almost like a shift that was different in a sense, the first shift. In this first shift I’m suddenly in a room with our friend, and we’re trying to climb somewhere. We’re trying to shift somewhere in the same house, but we have to climb up and over a partition.
And when we get kind of to the top of the partition, I notice it’s like a big spider that I’ve pushed out of the way, or brushed the web away, or something. Well, then, the spider suddenly came right back up at me – and it’s a big spider. The head must be as big as a quarter, and it has like a body and then legs. It didn’t look like a normal spider, but it was a spider in the dream.
And so I would push it up, and I would knock it down, and send it all the way down to the floor. And then it would spring back up, and I would kind of grab it behind the head and try to hold it. About the second or third time I did that the spider bit me really hard on my hand, like between the thumb and forefinger. And then I threw it back down, and when it came back up I had taken off its head, I guess, and its body was all gold and yellow now. Then I went back to the main dream.
And, in the theme in the main dream, part of what was going to happen is, even though I was somewhat older, I was going to be spending the night with one of the two brothers who share a room together. And as I go back to that, I’m supposed to be going to his room to spend the night with him, and I guess they’re rearranging the room a bit because he shares the room with his brother. Plus, the brothers inform me that they will be waking me up sometime of the night because the brother has to get up in the middle of the night and get some kind of a transfusion for his heart.
And before I go down there I’m looking for a restroom, and it feels like that’s when I walk around and I open up doors, and maybe I find a shrine, and I open another door and there’s clutter, and I actually kind of get distracted trying to put some of the house in a little better organization.
And the mom, at one point, says to me that sometimes she just goes outside to go to the bathroom. But I finally do go back to the room and find that there is a small bathroom attached to the room. And then I’m going to get in bed; the guy that I’m there to be with is actually sleeping soundly, and his brother has his arm around me, and we’re kind of standing there by the bed – and I think that’s when I wake up.
John: The theme of the dreaminginvolved being able to shift to different extremes in a balanced way. In other words, you repeated this three or four times in your dream. The first time you repeated it was you saw something that was like a bathroom, and then at the same time it could be like a shrine. Those are dichotomy shifts.
In other words, it’s like if you have an awakening, or an opening up inside of you, of a particular kind of awareness, in this case you use India in some element or aspect of India to denote something that quickened an energetic in your nature. Whenever the energetic is quickened in your nature, because we live in an outer sensual world you then have to put up with the shift of the outer in which you have all of the ideas, and the things that get invoked, and that is all of these little groups that are breaking up, and going on. And they are then almost like spinning in relationship to the increased energetic that has opened something up.
So the first is portrayed just something that is completely opposite. You have the one extreme of a bathroom, which is catalytic, and the other extreme of a shrine which is pulling one’s attention into a pristineness. And so you have those two extremes. The bathroom scenario that is catalytic is kind of like the process in the outer, and how do you handle and resolve that to a deeper meaning somewhere else? Which is set forth as the pristineness, but then the pristineness needs to live itself out in some sort of outer capacity as well. So then you have this repeat as India representing something that is deeply touching and significant, and then you have the spin of that that has to somehow or another be accommodated in relationship to the ordinary.
And then you go into the aspect of the brothers, and you end up finding yourself in some sort of mixing zone there. And then you have the spider, and in the spider you have this going up and going down, going up and going down, going up and going down, which is the nature of going to some depth inside, coming back down into life, going to some depth inside, coming back down into life. And in the end, dying before you die: getting bit by the spider.
Then when you rip off its head, that’s not necessarily good because that then becomes a decision that’s made in terms of direction. You have to be able to go up and down, and up and down, simultaneously; and it’s not one’s nature to be able to go up and down and up and down simultaneously. One wants to do it in one linear way, or the other linear way.
And so when you’re ripping off the spider’s head, you’re making the decision to only be directional. And the sense of the dreaming is to show you that you can multitask, so to speak, in terms of the multiplicity of things. In other words, you can have the pristineness of something and then, at the same time, you can contend with the diversity of something.
So when you have a pristineness of something, you’re able to hold the diversity of something, too. And they work hand in hand, because your pristineness can be too narrow, and the diversity is too reflective, and too broad. But by being able to somehow hold both, you can have so much more. And the pristineness you had was the shrine, versus the bathroom, which is the rumble tumble catalytic of it all. And you have to be able to correlate and to handle both.
And so you had dreams that went around this. And so you dreamt around this paradigm, and that spider aspect was very interesting because the spider aspect was more than just the spider biting you. It was going back and forth, and back and forth. You were going up and down and up and down. The key is, the ability to develop, first of all, it’s a big step to get to the point to understand that it’s inner into outer. But then it’s another step to recognize that there’s an importance in the outer reflection, and that as you go back and forth you hone the pristineness and the bathroom scenario more and more all the time. You come to know the difference between the two brothers, so to speak, that they are one and the same, in a way, because in the dream you were going back and forth between them even.
So you were caught, you were almost taken on a flip side, flip side of the coin kind of thing – the coin always being one-sided in terms of the outer – and able to somehow or another sell you the other side of the coin. That was very, very interesting.