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macroprosopusHere we continue the discussion from yesterday (see Out of the Cesspool), where John offers a beautiful description of the importance of a human life to God and all of creation. It is through a human’s energetic processes that we can have a evolutionary effect through all the levels of creation. Which means that everything we do and think is important. Yet this is only true when we get out of our day-to-day myopia, and begin to understand our relationship to the Whole. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

John: So as it happens in the microcosm of things, a person becomes something that, when you actually are paying attention, and watching things as they’re unfolding in the outer, there is an energetic, in terms of what is off and what is wrong, which feeds across to you as you’re watching this in the outer, and that sets in motion vibrations that funnel all the way through your life.

In other words, whatever’s off in some overall big capacity, tends to then funnel in and permeate through and affect how you are conducting yourself on your day-to-day. In other words, you’re carrying that vibration in some regard.

Now, what’s interesting is a human being then seeks to resolve that vibration in terms of what they’re doing on a day-to-day level. In other words, they attempt to figure out how to bicycle differently in terms of how they are conducting themselves externally.

That microcosmic approach also has an effect, that microcosmic approach is a minute way of dealing with something that you have absorbed as an energetic imbalance, in terms of something that you feel that you can try to contend with in your day-to-day world.

As you resolve that, or find a means by which to resolve that, in the day-to-day, that means that what you find is also a solution on a breakthrough energetic that then handles the bigger picture as well.

You don’t see it that way, however, because you don’t see yourself in this larger context. In other words, this little solution that you make on something that can seem fairly benign, this activity over access and the cesspool of things that have been carefully built up, which is no different than the way everything has gotten in the big picture of things, and so you’re looking at some little microcosmic aspect of this whole thing.

The degree to which you resolve, or handle, that, creates a vibration that goes through all of the levels. In other words, it goes from the human being as a means of breaking through. It permeates as a vibratory note, which is important in terms of how something breaks through in the Wholeness of things, the overall of things, and because what is going on in the Wholeness of the world – and it is another level separate from inner levels, because “as above, so below” – it then permeates all the way from there all the way up into these upper levels as well, because it’s designed to work that way.

In other words, the higher consciousness on these other levels is not somehow closer to God, although the concept is. In terms of man, in his limited faculties, he’d love to believe that that is so.

What is actually closer to God is the human being, but he doesn’t know that. And what the human being goes through to make the breakthroughs, which seem so trite, and seem so insignificant, is actually that which goes all the way through. It goes into the Whole, goes from the Whole all the way through into the inner, and becomes an answer and note that can be picked up on the inner. It comes as a spark from the human being.

That’s why it’s light rising up to touch light. Now, to begin with, you have to somehow or another make yourself available for something to inflect through, so that you let go of your spin, and your cesspool, in which you go around and around and choke yourself with.

You have to let go of that. And if you can let go of that, so that something kind of comes down, then you can create a spark that breaks the chains of that dynamic that you’re caught in, as an overall vibration in the schematic of creation, the way creation exists in the Whole, that also affects all the way to the microcosm of how you live.

If you break through on the level of the microcosm, into which something is hitting you, your spiritual life and your outer life are actually aligned and more so than you realize or know. If you make that breakthrough, then you go straight on through –  but you don’t know that.

All you know is you saw some little hiccup in front of you. You don’t realize that you’ve actually put into force a means by which the predicament of it all can get resolved. So what you have to do is, you have to look at the whole thing as a dream of the Whole, if you want to see how the microcosmic thing can actually become an answer for the Whole.

In other words, what does this dream suggest or imply, or the scenario within this dream suggest and imply? It suggests that you have to have a type of letting go, because as long as you continue to spin under the nuances of what’s thrown at you, continuously, you’re never going to get out of the trick box, or the Rubik’s Cube.

And as you let go, and as you shift, and as you take on a bigger schematic, and a bigger picture, then that other still thrashes about and it still does everything in its power to try to cheat and deceit you, but you can’t relate to it – in its terms.

That cheat and deceit is infiltrated through all; in other words, it is so well put together that it essentially has answers for anything that you could possibly come up with, and you can’t outthink it. You don’t want to try to outthink it. You have to simply out shift it.

It can’t shift a human being that connects inside and recognizes that something is meant to shift, can shift, and when a human being shifts, that shift is a shift that is considered a process of consciousness.

That process, in that shift, infuses the vibration and the note, which causes something to be able to be recognized and to be seen. If a human being never shifts, if a human being is caught by the collective malaise of things, then nothing changes.

You may find a means of taking off a little of the relief, but you don’t really address the problem fully and, therefore, the process doesn’t go all the way through – it becomes blocked. The process only works when you actually take and create the energetic shift in the microcosm, to a way that you hold the note of that, as a vibration in the macrocosm, to the point that as you become even more conscious, you become aware of other levels that carry that onward, and forward, and through, all with your feet on the ground as a human being.

Who catches up with this one? That’s why there are all of these discussions in Sufism, is which is greater, the saint or the student? And technically the saint’s under orders. He’s trying to bring something down and through.

The reason why the discussion is such a strange discussion is because it’s the human being that triggers the capacity of things – once they get the memo somehow, that they are told over and over and over and over again. But the reason why a person has to suffer is because they keep saying no.

They refuse to let the memo come through. That’s why you’re told once, you’re told twice, the third time you get whacked. That whacking is a suffering, and so technically you’re here to suffer. You learn by way of suffering, and the whacking is part of the process. Well, it’s part of the process because a human being has got to break out of this trance.

What they’re doing in the outer is tremendously important, in terms of not just the overall vibration in the world, but it goes way beyond that because there are levels that go on top of levels, and they’re all inside of you. And you don’t have any sense of that as a general rule, when you’re dealing with something that is just trite, and in front of you, bugging the dickens out of you on a day-to-day level.

You have no idea that that is the ticket through it all, and yet that’s a wonderful thing that a human being can actually carry that. When you realize this, the thought comes up then, perhaps there is a whole misconception that’s being put out there that you actually go somewhere and never come back. I’m not sure about that anymore.

The Buddhist don’t actually believe that. They believe that you have to keep coming back until all of humanity is taken forward to somewhere. In the Sufism Naqshband tradition, there’s the belief that you’re not going to have to come back.

Does that mean then, that you sit on some other level, at the mercy of the aspect of a consciousness of something in creation that is the ticket, and it doesn’t even know that it’s the ticket?

Do you sit back there, almost holding your breath, hoping that it gets the memo and you are kind of helpless to make or create any change, because it has to equivocate through the human being, and the doggone human being – you’re sitting there as a force trying to slay the human being into that awareness?

In other words, the friend that kills its friend to get the memo, to cause the whole thing to snap and to start going in motion and create the change – is this where we’re going? Is we’re the higher consciousness energy that cracks the whip on something that actually does the job?

Or do we want to stay and be the person in creation, get into creation, and somehow or another, actualize that for what it’s really all about? And realizing that to do that is a wonderful, wonderful challenge, and that you don’t actually catch up with God, or aspire to the creator, by some sort of transcendent approach.

You catch up to God, the creator, by being directly involved in the here and now, in the outer, of which you are able, then, to peek around the curtains of things, which means the levels of things in the Whole, and then the levels as well beyond the Whole of creation. And that’s an amazing place to be.

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Today we have a continuation of the conversation we began on Friday, in Saying Yes to the Process.

Here John leads us through the ideas of the processes of dream work itself, and the unfolding of the spiritual journey as the energetically awakened person begins to see the world around them more from the inner into the outer, and explores the concept of holding both the unconscious and conscious aspects of life as one thing. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)


John: Yesterday I had a very, very complicated and detailed dream, that I couldn’t remember one lick of when I came out of it. As a consequence of that dream I was in revolt to everything. I couldn’t identify with the outer environment around me or with anybody.

Everything was nausea, everything was kind of insecure. I was kind of like cracking up.

So I went to bed. Jeane takes and has two great dreams of which she always remembers her dream. She rolls over and touches me and same thing, poof, completely gone.

I kind of laid there in the cradle not even wanting to get up. When I get up I go back to meditating and meditate until 12:30pm. Basically all morning long – still not able to identify with anybody or anything and still in this very strange state.

When I come out of it I go out and announce, which I had announced to Jeane earlier in the morning, that I’m toxic and therefore I’m not going to eat for the next three days. You know, the feminine always take that as a shocker, you know boom like that. He’s really flipped out.

At 12:30pm I get up, I take a long walk, and I come back at about 4pm, and the TV is on and I’ll be darned panning around is one of my favorite shows, A Bronx Tale.

But it’s on a channel with all kinds of commercials and it’s got a lot of filthy language in it because it is one of those types that has very deep meaning but uses extremes to get there, and they’re dubbing it out because it’s on regular TV – plus with all of those commercials.

So I’m now flipping out again because I’m cracked; I’m fragile. So it gets recorded, the other half of it or so, and I disappear again and meditate for a couple more hours because I can’t relate to anymore TV or anything.

And I come out of that and watch it and it’s really good and everything, but I’m still feeling in this state where I’m a little disconcerted. Now, as far as a certain level of sight, it’s enhanced. But as far as a dexterity in the outer, I feel very helpless and weak.

As far as talking about things that other people talk about that consider important in terms of outer things, I probably am dangerous to talk to in a state like this, because I’m liable to shock them. I might not be polite enough you know to cater to it.

Also what tripped this, the night before last, was we pretty much set up a movie we were going to watch. It’s actually a very excellent movie with a lot of depth to it, Water for Elephants.

Jeane selected it and I thought it was a dumb movie but it turned out to not be, so we had the movie room reserved and she had a friend that was coming down. This was in… oh, I forget what they call it – it’s a special way of filming so it’s really high tech and whatnot  – and of course we have a pretty phenomenal movie room here, so at 8 o’clock this person hadn’t showed up yet.

And before they showed up about 8:15pm, I could already feel the vibe, and by 8:30pm I didn’t even want to watch the movie. Well, what this person is, is this person is an incredibly brilliant person, very deeply developed on a spiritual level, but so insecure it’s unbelievable.

I’m so much of a type of raw energy, that if a person was really insecure, I’m going to hit that button right off the bat. I mean, I was aware of this before she showed up. I felt I needed to disappear.

And then when she showed up she greets me with all kinds of openness because she knows Jeane real well and I don’t feed her insecurity button, and she starts to crack. And then she tries to make a comeback, and it doesn’t work you know because, I don’t know, I’m just a hard ass in some sense, and I say I don’t even mean to be that way. It’s just kind of a quality there and all of it was useful because what it did is it threw me into this nausea.

I mean this is a wonderful person and what came up was a discussion in which there was another person in here that has a lot of momentum, accomplishes a lot, but is vicious…

But you know they can’t help themselves if they’re vicious and I couldn’t stand the judgement of it, so I took this person’s defense even though I don’t agree with it. I also don’t agree with any black-and-white rubbing out something. And of course that will hit the insecurity button right away, because this person finds that sort of thing repulsive. If you find certain things repulsive, and you are reactive, you’re not going to be able to carry the kundalini energy.

And she had accessed things and she had developed a sensitivity and a brilliance, but then comes the next installment that could take her miles and miles down the road – would be the kundalini energy – and it will freak her out. It’s too much for her.

Jeane likes her because she finds her so brilliant, but she’s is also very, very careful to know how to handle her in terms of her insecurity.

I joke to Jeane, I say, “That’s an amazing talent that you have.” Just like I can take someone that can walk up and stick a gun in my ribs as I’m walking down the street and just start talking to him as if they are a long lost brother, and then when we hit the corner they go one way across the street and I go the other way as if nothing had happened. And anybody else they would have freaked out and they would have gotten robbed and who knows what all.

But I don’t feed into that and so it doesn’t work. There is a kind of a natural intertwining. I think I have told you this story of this other guy that’s so dangerous that he puts people in hospitals when he flipped out, and I would talk to him and everybody else would give him a wide space because they knew if he flipped out, and you’re around, you are going to be in bad shape.

I like the guy. I never felt any… I mean I could feel the rumble of that quality in his nature that was out of control but it was almost like driving a car. I knew how to drive that, how to steer or something, and appreciate the wondrousness that this guy had inside of him too…

One has to get like that and be like that in order to break the trances of the outer.

Because the outer is nothing but a reflection of energetics, conscious and unconscious. In other words, you’re going to come to a point in your dreaming where you are going to realize that the access that you are having that is reflective has a limitation too.

In other words, the outer is all reflective and your dreams are reflective but they go to a different depth. They incorporate a certain soul element that moves around…

But the soul element is also caught in having to be in creation, in a magnetism of a human body in terms of earth, and it’s a little bit baffling and a little bit confusing, so the images that come through you speak of something on the other side, but put it in a language that has to do with symbolism that is an earth energy.

And you lead through the earth energy to understand the symbolism on the other side, or the meaningfulness on the other side. Well, because your senses work most of the time, 99.9% of the time, outwardly and the mind of course is there interpreting those outward senses, when you have a dream that you remember, what you have actually done is you have stopped the mind and have settled yourself.

You didn’t realize that you stopped your mind, when you were sleeping, but you have stopped all of that moving around in an outer way capacity that just yo-yos back and forth and doesn’t have any sense of cadence. You have paused enough in order for this greater dimension to leak through, just like when I’m unsettled and cracking up, Jeane just touching me, it sets a trepidation off where she loses her dreams, or that quality of the other side trying to communicate through as a kind of language of the macro, to which she really is at a deeper level.

When you dream and then you are reducing this to images that you then cypher through to see what’s going on as a movement of the soul at a deeper level, what you’re doing in the dream process is first and foremost is you’re establishing first of all a stability and a sense and a training and an understanding, and a strength, by which you then can be subjected to access of the greater part of yourself.

When you are really fairly trite and dense, you can’t handle much and so everything is kept really basic. The outer is the outer and it’s no more than that. But then when you start to get more subtly refined and developed inside, to where you can access the greater part of yourself, then you come to recognize that the outer is nothing more than a reflection of the inner.

To begin with you struggle with your dreams in that you have to somehow get to the point where what you see in your dreams you don’t apply in an outer context. To begin with you do. To begin with you think oh, well it means I did this, that, and the other – I’ll change that in terms of what I do tomorrow.

To begin with, it’s a lot like that, all still cycling around your narrow perspective of life. But ultimately it gets to where you can’t do it that way anymore. That’s the nausea that you hit, that’s the third part of your dream. You can’t do it that way anymore.

You cannot be subjected to the limitations of power and control; you are intertwined with it all. You cannot handle you being treated as if everything operates in its own separate way and is distinct. You know better than that.

When you get like that, well, here’s the dilemma you run into, like Jeane starts out and she recognizes both the conscious and the unconscious, and then she learns how to take and put that sort of thing into kind of an order by which she can then express herself. Her dream described right where she was at in terms of using the energy, but it also portrayed the nausea in another way.

And I said to her that her dream was where she had both the conscious and the unconscious simultaneously. How can you be okay with it just being that way – in a state of a type of nothingness?

In other words, it hasn’t been formed into anything whereby you’ve streamlined yourself to utilize it. That can break you into a million pieces. That can cause you to throw away everything that you had identified with in terms of the sense of satisfaction.

There’s a way of interpreting your dream and this would be a completely wrong interpretation and fortunately you haven’t gone there, I don’t think, but there would be a way of interpreting the dream to think that your marriage is going to fall apart or something. And that is completely, completely totally wrong.

And that’s how the kundalini energy can destroy you, because that isn’t what the kundalini energy is about at all. The kundalini energy is there to cause you to take a step within. Everything in the outer, all of that, is meant to be an inner to outer correlation, not prison.

The outer is not a prison, it’s a reflection of the inner. Ultimately the outer reflects the inner.

That’s why when things are in a certain state of flux, here in creation, there is a similar flux in the ethers, or in the higher self, or the higher whatever, as above so below. And we are sitting with an access to it all, by being able to hold into the depths of something as the microcosm. In other words, there’s both the expanse and the contraction and the expanse and the contraction ultimately reveal the same thing.

As an example, the contraction you could take and put something under a microscope and you could see that every cell is identical to every other cell in the human body. Basically they have a blueprint, and that blueprint has a quality about it just like a fingerprint. It has a quality about it that is unique.

The microscope or the technology of minuteness can take and break the atom all the way to the point that it can get to the epicenter of all of the energy in creation where you have the big bang or poof effect just through a type of nuclear kind of way they call it nuclear anyway, a nuclear kind of going and going and going to the point where through the microcosm you get to everything that there is.

It goes that way too. We live in the microcosm. We have access through the microcosm to everything in the macrocosm. It’s amazing that there is no time and there is no space and you can play with it either in terms of expansion or contraction.

And a human being yo-yos back and forth between expansion and contraction which is the same thing as saying one minute they’re happy, and the next minute they’re sad, and one minute their heart is dancing, and the next minute their heart is crushed.

And then they start to maybe even develop some of the traits from Proverbs, or Ecclesiastes or whatever, that in other words don’t get too elated because then you are going to get sad or whatever as if there is an equanimity, which is a kind of Buddhist term now.

You know, trying to find that love of equanimity so you do not throw yourself around. This is just the order of things. Another way of saying expansion and contraction would be conscious and unconscious.

What we consider consciousness is in the outer an idea of how to best fend for yourself, and the most responsible and know how to walk across the street without getting hit and all of that we consider that a type of understanding as a type of consciousness. What we consider unconsciousness is a person that’s sleepwalking and they walk across the street and kabango. That’s unconsciousness.

That unconsciousness is a quality that includes everything in the overall. Consciousness has taken and streamlined and limited something.

Here’s another way of describing it. The world is created out of sound. So everything resonates a pitch or a sound. There is a sound in the universe and you can hear that sound.

Now let’s apply science to it. So science has come along and they’ve taken and they have figured out what’s called frequencies. And they can make a frequency, we will call it a cellular frequency, and the cellular frequency can handle voice technology, it can have the frequency that can transmit television and news radio and such. That’s streamlined, that’s precision, that’s taking something out, of you might say, a type of unconsciousness and made it conscious in the outer.

Then you can take the same frequency and you can go from what’s called analog to digital in which you tighten the frequency and now it handles and transmits and projects better things like data packets.

And then you could say well gee, I have accumulated all of this. I need to be able to contain it in some fashion. So now they’ve developed what is called microwave, which is a type of working with light where you zip this to maybe a home base like a central computer or something. So now you are able through the microwave to spray this around when before when you took something out of the macrocosm as a microcosm, you limited it, because a radiowave can only project so far, but now when you convert it back to light you can start to expand it back out into the macro.

The secret, the key here is to get to the point where you can be both conscious and unconscious simultaneously.

In other words, the dream I had last night is I went home and there’s a baby laying first of all kind of in the middle of the bed or towards the middle of the bed and suddenly it’s laying right on the very corner on the end.

And I start to wonder what would happen to this baby if it rolls off the bed. Sure enough, the baby rolls off the bed and eyes open up, the mother goes over and picks it up, the mother being my mom, picks it up, and the baby can talk.

Pretty sharp baby! The baby’s joking around about something that dad had said that indicate that the baby is going to be put on welfare, and the baby is laughing about it as if this is a joke because the baby knows. The baby can reason and knows stupidity when it hears stupidity.

Then finally I’m looking at the baby, the baby says, “Who are you?” I say, “I am your older brother.”

Then the baby comments about that, makes some comment, and I say, “Yeah, there is another brother, but I’m the oldest.” And then I try to remember another brother I had, but I can’t remember him. So it’s like he’s my other brother, but I feel like I am 40 in the dream yet my younger brother’s 20.

And the whole thing is this baby is in a state of unconsciousness, so to speak, connected to the soul of things, and I’m in a state of sophistication connected to creation and supposedly having lived life and have a certain conscious recollection about things, yet to this baby everything is unconscious.

Wow, I am a baby. That baby is me, we’re intertwined.

Ann: Boy, that’s pretty powerful.

John: So both the conscious and the unconscious have to be carried together. It’s the only way that inner can properly come into outer, it’s the only way that the inner and the outer can be correlated.

Otherwise, to the degree to which you have a depth of awareness inside of yourself, you’re going to keep building bigger castles, and you’re going to have no problem with the kundalini energy, except the kundalini energy is not designed the way the teacher’s teacher put it. The kundalini energy is one third on this side and two thirds on the other side.

It’s designed to open you up to the greater part of yourself. And when you open up to the greater part of yourself, then you come to find out that this path is about service. The reason why it’s put in those words is because you have a responsibility to the Whole.

And as you take on that responsibility of the Whole, you function differently.

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In Jeane’s dreams, we can follow how the imagery leads her from an awakening, or an inner stirring, toward a deeper inner connection, where things happen in a natural and magical way – without the usual struggle.

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Jeane: I had two dreams that were really hard to remember, and I was going over rehearsing them, and then I fell into a repeat dream that was so dominant I forgot my middle dream.

The first dream I had, the main features about it, it’s like I’ve gone into kind of a crowded living area, and into the room of a young woman who’s psychic. And it’s like when I have to go to the bathroom, it’s like she has almost like sacks that go into the ground at certain points, or into the floor, and you can over there and pee. And if there’s one that’s kind of a little closer to the bed that works out better.

But then she suddenly gets fussy and wants us to use one that’s kind of around the corner, which I don’t particularly want to do. So I think I’m a little irritable in that. I don’t quite figure out why she keeps changing what she wants.

And then it feels like when I go around the corner to where there’s kind of a divider and then there’s somebody else, a young man is renting a room or something. And he’s decided that since she has all these people coming and going that maybe he can sublet the back of his room, which doesn’t feel quite right.

It’s like because of what he sees is going on at her place then he wants to do something that brings in more people, or differently utilizes his space.

And then that seems to just shift into a dream that the only thing I remember about the second dream was that I would keep shifting whether I was the… I think I was a young man in it, or if I was the man or I was the woman. It’s almost like I could be all parts in it, but I never got back to pulling out that dream because the repeat dream, or what I felt was a repeat dream, came in that was so dominant.

John: The repeat dream is the dream you’re going to tell next?

Jeane: Yes.

John: What you’re doing in this dream is there’s something that you feel that is affecting you, that is astir in your nature, that causes you to have to look at how you function or live differently. In other words, it uses a peculiar analogy to get there. In other words, it has to do with whether you relieve yourself in this way or in that way, or over around this corner or however, as if you’re following a thread in terms of this process of how you’re releasing things, or as a type of release.

But it’s more than just a type of release. It’s also a way of unfolding to where you get closer and closer to the inner recognition as you are going about outer reflections. The outer reflects the inner. What you’re seeing is that you have a different responsibility.

In other words, you have all these other considerations that you have to take in, that is like a tightening up of the process in terms of how you’re unfolding, or relieving yourself, or however you want to say that.

And so what you’re describing is the spiritual path as perceived by a type of focus and attention that you have with yourself.

Jeane: What feels like to me a repeat dream, it’s even a repeat dream in the dream, it feels like you and I’ve been on an assignment with a number of other people and one of the parts of the assignment is when we got to a certain place, which happened to be my maternal grandmother’s house, that we would put on a certain skit and everyone would come up with a different skit that they put on.

Well, in the original dream, you and I had arrived there alone at night and none of the others were there, and we had come up with this great skit because I never really knew that you could kind of dance and sing and I even had this big wig I put on and we had gotten these animals to participate including this really large poisonous snake.

It had gone really well but we had done the whole skit without anyone else there. We just knew that was going to be part of our assignment. That was the dream I’d had before, and then I have it again.

In the dream this time we arrive at my grandmother’s house, but the whole group is there, and then they tell us we have to do our skit. I hadn’t known we’d have to repeat it again, but of course none of them were there when we did it, and so I’m a little off base because I don’t know what will happen as far as getting the animals there or anything but sure enough the big, large, poisonous, pink, female snake shows up.

And then it’s like I look at the ground and I just do something with focus and waving my hands and suddenly all of the – it’s almost like the ground kind of opens up – and all the other little critters appear. And so that will be part of it.

And I send you off to find your notebook because you had written down the lyrics to the song, which I didn’t remember, and I go off into an inner space going through various rooms looking for a place to change into the outfit and the wig that I wore, and I have some trouble finding a place to change because the rooms we’d used before have changed into a stable and there’s even a saddled horse there, and another one’s a restaurant with people there now, but I finally come back.

I seem to have gotten my… whatever changes I needed to make happen so that we go on to sing. And I go right up to the poisonous snake and it actually has a feminine aspect to her and she is huge. I mean, like she has a face almost as big as a human’s, big python type, all pink, and I actually do some things where I’m scratching her face and getting ready for the performance to sing to her and somebody else is commenting that they had really kind of slacked off on what they were doing for their skit but it felt like we kind of went all out.

You do the singing in the skit for the most part. I just have to get your notebook for a few lines. I guess that’s the main dream.

John: That’s a dream that takes you completely outside of the world of the outer, and into a world so connected to the inner that the reflections that occur in the outer are no longer reflections per se, as if they’re estranged or disconcerted or separate from the inner.

In the first dream that had to do with you trying to figure out where you needed to be and how you needed to be, that dream had a bewilderment and awkwardness to it in that you were still trying to catch up with the ability to grasp or follow the thread to a knowingness of how it is that you are, or are meant to be.

In the second dream, you found it. You know that the energy comes through and awakens and quickens and makes everything alive, only it’s a connectiveness to the innerness, so that the aliveness in the outer is not some sort of like dead reflection, it’s a direct correlation.

In other words, it becomes a symbolic way or a meaningful way of directly creating the inner. In other words, this is a dream that has this whole creative quality to it, and it indicates the role of the masculine as an aspect because the feminine should have a completeness and a wholeness and know how to dance, and the masculine is going to be awkward that way because it does not know how to catch up with the reflections, from which it is able to reach a knowingness or a hearingness. In other words, bring that through almost as if it speaks it into an aliveness in the outer.

The power of the dream is this whole beginning part. In other words, as you’re sitting and trying to understand that, what has occurred there, you’re lowering the energy because you were just living it and going through with it naturally, without any forethought or mannerism at all, a lot different than the awkwardness of the focus and attention in the first dream to try to be where you needed to be, or to follow the thread of however it is that you are directed to be in that regard.

And there’s a certain tension in that because you haven’t yet pulled through the inner in its all encompassing way, and you somehow know when you’re like that that to properly live or relieve yourself, you have to catch up with that as a responsibility.

In the second dream it’s just suddenly there and it has a whole magical element to it in that what it is that you experience turns out to be what manifests around you.

Jeane: The only part of that dream that I forgot near the end is it feels like I go over and I look down a level, where some stairs are, and you’ve gone down there with some guys, and you are apparently moving and so you’re carrying your moving boxes. I’m considering whether I should go down and help you move in, but I’m pausing because I do not necessarily want to carry the same kind of weight boxes the guys carry, so I’m thinking that maybe if I got handed the clothing boxes or something I could carry those in and help you unpack. But I’m just pausing and deliberating on all of it because so far you’ve got guys carrying the boxes for you.

John: That’s still devolving as if it’s something that you still have to contend with or something, because in the first part of the dream it was all working in cohesion, the awareness that was an aliveness that then corresponded to things that were automatically there as if created through the inner energetic. That was all there in the initial first part of the dream.

And so what you did is you just… I mean, it’s almost like you just nonchalantly described what it’s like to bring inner into outer and what that can be like in just kind of a, plop there she be, kind of way. And the other part of the dream has you kind of somehow or another trying to reconcile all of that, and it doesn’t work that way. You can’t reconcile it.

You’re too much in the essence and its aliveness that comes through is created through the presence of that essence in as an absolute a way as you’re able to do it. It has a slight flicker in there where you recognize an aspect of the masculine, in other words that can sing the song or make the note or something like that, but other than that it would just be one seamless flow and it still is a seamless flow, you just throw that in to make sure that one recognizes how it works in terms of your having caught up with your fullness of being.

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