Posts Tagged ‘in the stillness of the breath’

Traditionally, a spiritual journey entailed putting down our attachments to Earthly distractions, although that idea should be understood in the way of not letting them be our purpose and personal aim. We are human and we will have human experiences. What these teachings are pointing to is that our spiritual purpose should guide our interests and interactions – because everything can be done in a spiritual way, a connected way, a purposeful way. It is about elevating the reasons why we do what we do. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

John: If you’re true enough to yourself, then you realize that running that course, which may get glimpses, the glimpses are really, then, to a complete total letting go and the stopping, which is the stillness of the out-breath turning to the in-breath, and that the two have to come together: the out-breath turning to the in-breath, and the in-breath turning to the out-breath. 

Those points of stillness, when they are one and the same, then there is no such thing as a journey, and there’s no getting caught on either aspect of the breath, either the in-breath or the out-breath. That’s what I had to dream about, that came together as a meditation dream, and was able to see that all of that can be done in one fell swoop – as opposed to having to dribble along, like everything seems to do. So we’ve got to hit the stillness behind everything, or we’re still in some part of the breath.

In the meditation dream, I noticed that it is now possible to experience a step, which could be a lifetime, because time as a concept is relative: it could be a lifetime, could be a moment, I don’t know. All I know is that it is now possible to experience a step that goes from bottom-to-top, or top-to-bottom, or however, depending upon how one inflects.

Maybe it doesn’t, but I don’t discount the fact that it can be done in both directions. And, in the past, you weren’t able to do it like that in one fell swoop, in the past there were multiple steps and with that came complications and delays. 

I apparently dreamt this as a response to a question that was hanging in the air. The question has to do with, what’s the nature, or purpose, of the path? Is there a purpose, or a nature, of the path, something there that one has to adhere to?

And, as a result of this, there was like a reply, a type of reply. In other words, saying that it can be done in one fell swoop, which causes me to ponder: if going to the stillness, beyond the breath, the breath’s manifestation, per se, if this, apparently, transcends the journey of breath. And is a step, not ordinarily possible, but not in a process of waking up, and waking up, is possible now in one fell swoop – not the quality of a little bit this and a little bit that? 

I say this because, in the dream, I saw the process as having been this in one great big swoop, instead of a process in which there’s a step, pause step, and no end denoted. So the scenario for this is I’ve apparently touched upon, in my reply to Dean, I apparently touched upon something that isn’t talked about because there have been spiritual illusions on the in-breath that had been predominating, and, correspondingly, as a counter reflection, the out-breath’s co-creation state lying in the way of stillness.

So what I saw is just one step without the usual fits and starts associated with the in-between-ness, which is a temporal quality. The reason I say this is because most Sufi paths work at the hiccups we carry on the breath, and not upon the interval of stillness.

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FI0nsWhere do epiphanies come from? Usually it is because of a confluence of events: we have put our attention on an idea or an issue, our system works on it while we do other things, we revisit the subject, or add new information, whether awake or dreaming, and then a new insight or knowing can appear. In this way we are like a garden, and we prepare the ground to grow the produce of what we seek. Once the ground is well prepared, what we have invited by our care and attention will be attracted and grow in us, eventually working its way into our consciousness. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

Jeane: So I’m still having trouble remembering my dreams. It’s like I’m aware I’m dreaming, but I’m having trouble remembering the details. The only thing I remember is the last detail, obviously influenced by what we watched on TV last night, because it feels like I’m living at something that I think of as like an institute, like there’s a lot of grounds and people there.

But it feels like an institute where some of the women who have gone to live there they’ve gone there because they’ve been battered, or persecuted, in some way, so this is a safe place for them to be. But I’m observing one woman, who actually works in the library, and I have some concerns because I feel like whatever countermeasures that she’s gone to, to protect herself if whoever persecutes her comes into the library, are going to be too extreme. And it feels like I’m pondering how to moderate that. That’s all I really remember of the dreaming.

John: Well, it’s a type of dream that you had and, now that you’re slipping to this phase of dreaming, it tweaks something under what you’d call the underside of the energetic unfoldment – as opposed to going back and seeing the energy that is able to be understood, the depth within that’s able to be understood, based upon the unfoldment projection.

In other words, going back through the projection to where something is coming from within. That’s the normal way that one understands, and looks at, and finds themselves dreaming. But that is not what you’re doing. What you’re doing is you’re going through and you’re looking at something, but you’re looking at it as if you’re tweaking the underside of it. And whenever you have a dream that tweaks the underside of it, in one way it’s hard to remember because you actually get to a point where you lucid dream, these other kinds of dreams, in terms of their meaning.

So when you’re tweaking the underside of something you don’t quite know what you’re trying to wake up yet. You don’t get a sense of what that flow is. I have found that those kinds of dreams are a type of dream that are very difficult to remember because you don’t have a direct knowing to what they mean, and that you have to pull them out. You have to spend some time pulling them out, writing them up or something, in order for the other to open up. And the reason why it’s like that is the underside of things is a deeper depth that functions with another tool.

By another tool I mean another aspect of how something comes through. It is the carrying of a stillness into life. When you dream, per se, you’re dreaming generally in terms of going behind the symbolism and the event of what’s happening. You’re going back and you’re looking at the quality of where it’s coming from; it’s coming from a deeper innerness, or the zone of essence, or of stillness. And so you’re inflecting back.

You’re taking the thoughts back and drowning them in that, which is what you seek to do with the in-breath. With the in-breath you’re taking and going home with the in-breath, which is where you’re drowning the activity needs in the outer. You’re drowning them from the stillness where the out-breath turns to the in-breath. You’re drowning them back into the in-breath turns to the out-breath.

But when you start dreaming like this now, because your dreams are predominantly out-breath oriented, emotion equivocation kind of things, you have two ways of dreaming, and the way that you’re now trying to dream is the second way of dreaming which is very awkward because you’re not dreaming in the same modality as before. Before you would be going backward. You’re backing up to whatever the thought projections are to the essence.

This time you’re coming down into life with the essence, with the stillness. And so as you come down into life with the stillness you have these things that effectuate out of the stillness, so to speak, because you don’t have the thoughts that you’re caught in, or lost in. You don’t have to go backwards to that to find out where the stillness is at. You’re able to be more natural with the stillness.

So when you dream like this you have to identify with what is going on in the outer. You have to look at what you’re doing in the outer as bringing in the stillness. This is different in that you have brought the breath to a complete stop.

In other words, when you dream you have the out-breath, and then the out-breath has a thought, and then what carries back something as the in-breath to the crown, to the top, to the stillness point again is the understanding that develops of the uneventful out-breath thought. And that is able to happen because that out-breath thought has hit an epiphany point in the interval where the out-breath turns to the in-breath.

So that then sets up and creates a spark of insight, and that insight is the understanding, then, that happens as you then proceed back. So when you then proceed back you have actually hit what is called a home, in terms of the in-breath turning to the out-breath interval, and where on the Naqshbandi and the Chisti path the idea being that you then have to bring the energetic back into the outer, their understanding of it still involves, even though they know better and aspire to this, still involves having to contend with something in an outer-aspected way like trying to help this, or trying to be situated this way or that way, in terms of looking out for the affairs of the world, a kind of doingness yet. And when you have this kind of doingness you’re always going to have a report, in terms of a dream, that will then go back through the thought to the stillness, and the understanding of that is possible from the in-breath that cycles up as the in-breath. You still will be doing that.

What you’re dreaming is being like plop in a quality of the in-breath, that then the report of what goes on in the outer is aspected as an in-breath Will or something, an in-breath Will. Yeah, that’s it. That’s the connection to the Will, and the Will is the in-breath stillness. It’s the stillness, and it reports on the outer condition of an unfoldment, as opposed to the outer reporting back to it.

In other words the order and mandate of a person is they make the journey home, and then they come back down into life which, one might describe as a taking of a step backwards, so to speak, in terms of evolution, to come back into life. And most people who do this really do take it as a devolved step. They come back and they, to some degree, get involved in whatever it is that they still feel that they need to get involved in, which means they haven’t had enough of it, or haven’t quite got the full memo of what it means to have made the journey. They still have some incongruity.

But there comes a time when you could come back into life with just the stillness, without having to create a visibility, or an actionability, in any other sense.

In other words, there’s the journey away from God, which is the out-breath, and then there’s the journey towards God, which is the in-breath, and then in the stillness there’s the traveling in God. So that’s neither breath. That’s stillness. That’s above and below stillness, and when you dream like that, then, if you’re traveling in God, then you report the other as opposed to the other reporting back to the stillness – because that’s where it’s trying to be.

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