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stars-of-lightIn John’s dream, he is wrestling with the theme that arose in Jeane’s dream (see Looking at the Dynamic). When a new energy enters the equation, the masculine and feminine will handle it in different ways, because of their inherent natures. So there is a process of evaluation of the energy by either the masculine or feminine, as to how the energy can best be handled and grounded into life. The subtlety, however, is not to affect the energy itself, but to let it manifest as it is meant to do.  (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

John: My dream in comparison, the masculine looks at it somewhat differently in that it has to gauge the force and effect of the flow that’s coming in. And it has to determine how strong that flow and effect is.

In other words, it has this need to know where this is going. The feminine is more a matter of whether it can carry it, sustain it, maintain some sort of balance in relationship to it. The masculine has to sit back, as if the masculine is able to determine if the energy that is coming through has the staying power behind it to keep penetrating and penetrating and penetrating. In other words, is the paperwork sufficient, which basically means, how anchored is the vibration? 

What I was doing is I was looking at the energetic paperwork, noticing that the energy coming through is fairly over the top in its potency, and that the container quality of what is having to deal with that, the paperwork behind that, is a little short. 

That doesn’t mean that it can’t be filled in and completed, but at the present time it’s a little short, which means that the force of what is coming down doesn’t have a long-term sustainability in terms of the continuous thrust.  

Which means that it has done some damage, and it is supported by energetic paperwork, but it’s in a vacuum or something, or it needs rooting, something to root it through. It needs to have the base come together more.

So I’m sitting, and I’m looking at this, and I’m saying, well the base isn’t together sufficiently enough to sustain this kind of effect, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t be brought through with more potency. It doesn’t mean that that can’t happen, but it means that over the short term there can be some catching up, some solidifying of what has taken place, counterflow and stuff like that, to what has taken place energetically because the paperwork isn’t sufficient enough to continue, the way the energetic energy is plunging.  

Basically, the point of this that I’m taking and looking at the characteristics and quality of the change agent energy from a standpoint of timing, consistency, effective force, and we’re very analytical fools, so to speak, while the feminine is looking at it from the standpoint of how it is that she’s able to maintain her composure – in relationship to what is in front of her, or what she is doing.

In other words, the beadwork is a doing of something and what is in front of her has something to do with the way the whole setting is presented. In other words, she has this certain environment that she has to determine if she can be comfortable in. 

In your dream the weakness of the energy has to do with you having to form some sort of contractural conditions. In other words, it would have been a stronger presence if you could have just looked at the situation and sized it up, but instead you had to try to establish some sort of negotiation, or Mexican standoff. You needed that in order to be okay, in order to convince yourself that you had the ability to sustain or support the situation in front of you.

In my particular case, I’m trying to not just look at the fact that something that has happened has an exasperation quality, as I see it at this point in time, meaning because it’s not supported by the energetic paperwork sufficiently to continue the thrust of what is taking place. I’m having to look at what it’s going to take to get that base in order to continue to plunge. 

Has something snapped, or changed, so that there is a support that kind of comes back in, a base-building mechanism that comes back in, to complete the paperwork energetically, so that it can then take and go to the next degree? That’s what I’m looking at.

I also have to look at the collateral effect. The collateral effect of an energetic coming through sets off things that tears threads, and creates a shake-up, and jars something pretty hard and pretty severely. That jarring, that shaking, that effect, it is something that then undermines a cadence that had existed, or was accepted.

How is that going to work out? Is that cadence something that was wrong, or is that cadence something that got overdone, or is that cadence something that is right but got confused, or got discombobulated? In other words, the basics are you’re holding a space, and I’m going around and around trying to noodle with it, and you’re holding the space more in a rooted sense of how it is that your scenario is affected, and I’m sitting with the audacity of trying to perceive something off the ground.

But in terms of the breath, we’re both scrambling to try to draw a gauge, or a meter, of things that is away from, or distinct from, the lower part of the breath. We’re somewhere in between. If I’m pushed to the lower part of the breath, where a pain hits, where something is jammed all the way through, that will be interesting, too. Will that be the culmination of something?

And as long as we’re in-between the breath, does that mean that something hasn’t quite fully come through? That’s a scary thought. It could be. In the process of measuring this, that could be. But what is something that fully comes through? Is what’s meant to fully come through something that creates destruction this way, or is this kind of a step back from something that’s a destruction going in the opposite direction?

So you have to know which way the energy is trying to go. The energy is going both up and it’s going down. Technically speaking, there is nothing ever really going on because the energy that is sitting in a space is sitting in a quietness in its overallness, and yet it has a destiny that’s been ordained. So, in that sense then, there’s something that’s flowing, but that which had been flowing is not acceptable as it is, and so there is a reworking of the chemistry.

But the chemistry that’s being reworked, there’s care in doing it because you don’t want to crack things too much, although you’re going to crack them completely before it’s over with. You have to boil the frog, so to speak, slowly, and so you have this stuff that goes back and forth.

Just when it looks like it’s going to go this one particular way, then you have to abate that because that creates a hardship that’s too much in the direction that it suddenly looks like it’s going. So you go back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth and a huge change and switch that makes no sense, which catches everybody by surprise, destroys certain control mechanisms that have gotten overly set up.

The whole process is breaking down the means by which to lock in, and get a bead, and a bearing, on something that you take and hold onto, maintain, and sustain forever – as if you have a right to control or manipulate something, first one way, and then the other. The key is to not let either side, either thing, get so set up that it creates a too dominant effect upon the overallness of life.

You’re sitting there and you’re having to feel and gauge the copaseticness of the overallness of life. If you’re doing this, is that okay in relationship to your focus and attention? If you’re in a scenario that’s been thrown a bit askew, is that going to be okay in relationship to your sense of well being? You’re just looking at it that way.

If I were to act like it’s a well being discussion, it would be having to look at the details, gauging the degree of the thrust, whether it’s properly implemented in terms of the will behind it, or like the thought behind it, or the paperwork behind it, if it’s properly implemented and supported. Or if a lot of what occurred is an over exaggeration, but maybe not, maybe it was meant to plunge that degree and then catch itself to get more paperwork to take another step.

That’s very scary if that’s how it is, and you never really know. The human being sits at a point that takes note of this sort of thing, but how is it that you get the handle on it? To get the handle on it you have to take yourself out of the equation completely. 

That’s the feminine principle of being able to be receptive. The feminine in her receptivity is able to have a kind of natural protection. If the feminine is getting thrown every which way around, and is reacting, and is losing it, every time something goes and changes in whatever it is that she has to observe, and contend with, and take on, then you’re going to have a world in which there’s no one holding their own balance, or sense of counsel.

And it’s a sense of counsel in terms of the overall, and so you have tremendous confusion. And it works the same way in the other direction of the vibration, in terms of it being specific, and how much force does it have, and to what degree is it supported, and whether it can gain more support. Are there other waves that are there to follow and accompany it, or is it playing itself out in some fashion?

That’s a crackable energy, too, in that if one gauges it one way, and gets it wrong, and then gets it wrong again, eventually you find yourself so weakened and so destroyed and so distraught that everything falls apart. And so you have to ponder how it is that you are, in relationship to what is transpiring.

Do you have the capability and maintainability in relationship to what is occurring? That is the creation feminine principle. It’s like on one hand you could say in relationship to your beadwork and whether or not the environment that you are sitting in is going to be sufficient enough and okay enough for you to do that, like you’re a rag doll in that regard, having to take a stance and bear what is to be borne.

And the masculine actually kind of feels what is going to be happening before it happens because he’s playing with the seed thoughts of things. He’s feeling what’s going to happen before it happens by the thrust of the nature of the seed of something. His attention upon the groundedness, and how that is in the outer, is not where his attention is at. He has taken his attention, on a need-to-know kind of outer, beyond, and therefore that leads to a lot of ungroundedness. And so where is the base? Where is the rootedness?

One has come out of that state of where the in-breath turns to the out-breath, and now you’re in a state of suffering. And then the gauge is, to what degree? Do you have to go all the way back down and suffer as much as you suffered before, or do you have a reprieve?

There is no way that you can know the answer to that. In other words, is what you’re containing going to be something that you’re able to do, or is the discombobulation of what you’re holding together going to be too overwhelming?

In your opinion you’ve got everything okay within parameters or degrees. You’ve created a negotiated aspect in the one dream, and in the other you’re looking at this in terms of your focus and your attention to what you’re doing is whether or not you have the penetrative powers to align.

I can’t look at it that way. I have to look at it as to whether or not what is coming through is something that can be handled in and of itself, handled as a thought, as an energy, as a seed. So I work more with the specific vibrational effect, and you’re having to handle it and work with it in terms of the consequential effect of that upon creation.

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yinyang1Here John describes the process of being able to ground higher energies, thereby allowing them safe outplay into life. This requires a balance of the masculine and feminine principles within an individual. The masculine principle brings the seed thought, or energy, down, but it can only manifest through the grounding and containment of the feminine. One without the other is an incomplete process. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

John: It’s kind of similar, if you think, to the principle of how meditation works. It’s a little bit along those lines. When you first start meditating your meditations are miserable, because just garbage is coming up – and more so than usual because you’re giving things permission to be like that.

So then when you reach a certain freedom, and you start exuding that freedom, on an energetic vibrational level, now you become a force of nature that is doing this to others, right out in the open, no meditation involved. You’re bringing something straightaway right into life.

So what happens is, a lot of people then get to thinking that they have to be a bit transcendent. Instead of bringing it down, they have to be more transcendent, and if you get more transcendent you can take yourself out of life, and you could become something that’s not relatable by others, because you are not finding the intertwined similitude that goes beyond the appearances of the physical.

You’re not submitting yourself to finding that, to touching that; paying the price of whatever that is. So the more you can be in the physical, the more grounded you can be, the more you can carry across this transcendent state, which is like the statement now of, feet on the ground head, in the heavens, or something.

You can actually marry those two states as a Oneness. Now, here’s the problem of marrying these two states as a Oneness. You have to now understand the core of feminine energy, and the core of masculine energy.

The core of masculine energy is to bring a seed thought, or a quality, down into life. And in order for it to come into life, it has to be embraced by the feminine principle of life. It has to be ushered in by the feminine principle of life, and the feminine principle of life knows manifestation in terms of how manifestation is.

And so when something new, as an idea or seed thought, is thrown at it, it used to be that that feminine principle was very receptive, but it’s learned to be a little leery. It’s been abused a lot, so it tends to have kind of a jaundiced eye about all of this, and it finds out that it’s appropriate for it to have a jaundiced eye because most of the time these ideas are cockamamie, three or four different ideas and all disjointed.

But the feminine principle that fully is able to surrender, and be at home in manifestation, can take the cockamamie ideas and make them sensible, because every vibration has a reality that has to live out. And they can bring it into manifestation. And when they bring it closer to manifestation, they’re taking this – what was raw energy – and they’re honing it so that it can see itself and be clear and become more real, more divine.

That’s what the feminine principle does with the masculine principle. What happens is, the masculine principle, in other words the seed thought or whatever, which is really divine in its purest essence, gets completely transformed in this process. It gets absorbed, totally absorbed in that process.

What happens to the feminine principle? To understand the feminine principle in terms of… in other words, what we’re trying to do is we’re trying to take this to the essence; making the essence statement in terms of the masculine. What does the essence statement of the feminine look like?

Well, you gain some clues more so from Chinese religion, or religions, the Tao or whatever, than you do from many other religions. At least I don’t know how to read it or understand it in other religions, but I understand the Yin/Yang principle and I understand this as expressed in the Oxnard pictures.

Now in the Yin/Yang principles you either have something that’s all dark with one white spot, or all white with one dark spot. And the Oxnard picture you see it put into a flow where it starts off with the black ox, and by the time young man becomes old man, the ox of his nature goes from black to white – except for the tip of the tail which is still black.

He never transforms the tip of the tail, because then he would have no manifestation then. So what I was looking at inside of myself was, how do I deal with certain energetics?

The masculine goes along and he learns to accept certain feminine ways of being because there’s a lot of quality to that, but there also is always a little subtle limitation. And a masculine that’s closer to the essence knows how to shatter the feminine, knows where he could say something that would just be devastating.

And he will not go there. He knows better because he knows, okay, she may be like that, she may carry herself like that, but even though she’s like that, along with this are all of these other good qualities. So you take and you shatter this, what are you going to have? You’re going to obliterate manifestation.

You’re going to have something that’s just going to go berserk. It’s going to go and lose its mind so to speak. The masculine never goes beyond a particular point. In other words, the masculine can take and bring everything down and have it rendered into soft as wool or whatever; just meaning something would appear.

The feminine can embrace everything, but because she’s charged with manifestation, there’s a point at which she has to still hold something – so that there’s manifestation. It can’t go completely poof.

That final step is like an extraction then, when it goes away for her. It’s not like she transforms that herself, but she’s liberated from having to continue to carry that responsibility. That’s how I saw that.

What’s interesting is what I’m now doing is, I’m putting this into a process like we were talking about earlier, which has to do with this energy as it speeds up, as you have a certain quality about you. The feminine, when it has this quality about her, can say and can do things that can effectuate a change much, much faster than the masculine.

The masculine will have to do it in 20 words. The feminine can do it with just a gesture almost, or just a couple of words – but much more grounded, much more rooted, and much closer to manifestation. So when this quality gets accentuated and you get really close to this epitome of things, magic is really afoot.

No wonder the Catholic Church is so frightened of the feminine coming in to her mysteries. The masculine raw energy, this is what it means by the prima materia. That gets all transformed. There’s the substance from which something new is made, and that substance coming down shifts and changes life.

So the masculine can catch up with the speed sense, of which I see this happening in the morning. And then I can go down and I can affect all kinds of things that I run into, in terms of people and such; I see this in all kinds of ways.

Those that can be fluid find it interesting and grasp it and roll and open up. But wherever there is a degree of power of control, you see this impingement hitting, and if the power and control is really harsh, they have to walk away, or they have to fight, or they have to plot against you, as if you are a force to be reckoned with, and generate a kind of fear in them, as their defense mechanism.

But each person is different.


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