Posts Tagged ‘the in-breath and the out-breath in dreaming’

In understanding that everything is interconnected, we can look at the cycle of the breath, in-breath and out-breath, and see how it is mirrored in so many of life’s processes, and even can be applied to the unfolding scenarios in our dreams. Here we have an excellent example that shows what can be learned by realizing where we are, in terms of the in/out, or up/down, cycling of the breathing of life. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

Jeane: So, in the middle dream, which seems like a sequence to the first, it’s like I’m in what feels almost like a southern town because of how people relate, but the town seems to consist of what feels almost like antique shops or stores that link to each other, because they have a lot of things in them. 

And I’m kind of wandering through maybe following a few of the local women trying to figure out how these stores link up, and what’s contained in them, and where the food is. And I might get distracted for a minute by something that’s in there that’s old or interesting, but I keep moving on. 

And they just have that complexity that antique-type stores have. And the people seem to be interweaving their lives in these buildings. And so I look at where they have the food in several separate places, in two different stores that are linked together. 

And then it feels like I follow this woman out onto the street and up to the hills. At that point, I feel more like a man. We go up to the hills and there’s a kind of complex set of caves, and I follow her into these caves. You almost feel like some of them seal behind you and you’re not sure how it is you’ll get out. 

But we go in and we sit down on one, and, it’s like, if I have my arm around her I’m looking for a kiss. But then I realize at some point that she’s going to use that kind of yearning for a kiss or something to both keep a distance and maybe even leave me there in the caves for whatever she wants me to do in the caves. So I’m having the thought that I don’t think I want to go along with this scheme, I think I’m going to leave the cave, I think that was when I woke up.

John: It’s good to be able to have that kind of perception that knows how to recognize when something is going wrong, that you’re not meant to do anything with, or try to do anything with, because it is sitting in a modality, or frame of reference, that is adamant in that frame of reference that it’s in. 

And so if you put any attention to that frame of reference, you could get sick, or you could be hurt. Sicknesses come in multiple ways, it can be an energetic sickness, where something hits you energetically. But the sickness that can be an energetic sickness can actually afflict an aspect of the body because the breath and the thought of something coming through, is coming through into matter. 

So you’re playing with the two directions like you’re going to the south, which is down into life, which is the out-breath. So you’re going into manifestation, into the town, where the people are at. And you’re looking at how things are in terms of the myriad of things that exists that way. And then, of course, because you have the out-breath, you also have the in-breath. 

And so with the in-breath now you’re going back up into the mountains. It’s the feminine, the breath on the in-breath is the feminine breath. The breath on the out-breath is a masculine breath. So when you come down into life, you come down and you look at things, and you contend with things, in more of an animalistic way, which is more masculine, which is a thought energy that is more masculine coming down as an out-breath. 

On the in-breath, you’re going back more to the angelic, you’re going back more as the in-breath is the feminine path. The out-breath is the masculine breath, in terms of the general overall schematic. So when you went back as an in-breath, you went back witnessing, so the masculine quality that came down went back witnessing the feminine side, or the side that is more angelic, the side that is more spacious. You went back recognizing that. 

So you’re flipping the practice around, just like, for example, when the practice was done where you put your attention on the out-breath, and then there was no rising back up, as if the rising had already occurred, and then you come down. You are doing it the opposite. You come down, which is like the “al” and then “lah” back up on the in-breath. 

So you’re doing it in the Naqshband way. Done in the Chisti way of “al” on the in-breath, and “lah” coming back down is where you contend with setting in motion stuff that you, if you’re not very mature, or if you are holding on to something, is apt to happen. You supposed to be able to do that: come down and touch life, in the outer, and be in this other place simultaneously. 

So what you’re doing is you’re looking at this quality, only you’re looking at it kind of as a coming down in a Naqsband way, where you come down and then you follow something back up, you take something back up.

Whether you say that that’s Nasqhband, or Chisti, or whatever, both work with the breath. But you started with the out-breath, and came to the in-breath; the Naqshband’s way. The Chisti’s start with the in-breath going home, and then can’t stay there in the place that they go to because it’s too limited, or isolated, or something. And they come back down. 

It’s interesting, you’re working with the dynamic. And the way that fits with the prior dream is, within that dynamic you develop an ability to function in the two worlds, and you develop a certain way, and a clarity, and a depth for doing so. And you recognize that the witnessing way – without having to say anything – is the best. And the second best is the ability to speak with a certain clarity, or brevity. And that is often identified and expressed through a certain power of the breath that carries the focus and connection in a strong enough, connected way, so that it inflects. Still, that’s not bad.

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There are many types of abuse in life, not just in the external, but on the inner landscapes as well. For a dreamer, it can be a way to show the “relationship” is no longer working. But what relationship? It could be an old defense mechanism that causes more problems than it fixes, or any number of psychologies we use to navigate life. Add to that, our inner masculine and feminine and the constant tug of war between these different viewpoints and approaches. Sometimes a higher perspective can bring clear air. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

Jeane: So, in the second dream I remember, okay, there’s a woman that’s had a long term relationship with a man. And, in this relationship, he’s actually been somewhat abusive to her, in that he’s gone out with me and he’s gone out with other women. And he’s not really there for her. But she seems to stay in the relationship. 

So I’ve taken her up to the rooftop of a building and even jumped myself across from that rooftop to the rooftop on another street. And because I feel like up here on the rooftops, when she looks out over the city, maybe she can better look at that relationship and see that he’s not really faithful, and he’s in some way somewhat abusive. 

And I want her to come with me or move on from that. But I recognize, even though I tell her what he’s done, I realize that she’s really not going to leave that relationship. So I just have to move ahead on my own without her.

John: Well you’re trying to portray another aspect of letting go – I’m not sure I agree with the image of how you’re doing it, but you’re trying to create the letting go as if you can take and go into a whole different schematic, like up on the top of a rooftop or something. Or, in other words, away from the density of something that is more rooted, and more basic, and more guttural. 

And that, somehow or another, then, there is a sense of freedom from which one can just transition, or leave, or let go. But I’m not sure that it quite works that way. I think you have to let go in creation, because you’re doing this on an in-breath.

Jeane: I felt like, from the rooftop, you could get a perspective that she wasn’t using when she was kind of more down in it. 

John: Yes, it’s an in-breath; you’re doing it from an in-breath. I’m used to a perspective of seeing the vibrational stillness as it first comes out, as a thought, and yet it’s still just close to the stillness. When you’re going to the top of something you’re aspecting it again towards a proximity of the stillness, but on the in-breath side of things. 

I mean, the most dense point is the point all the way down to the bottom of the breath, actually, it’s so dense and so compact, that that’s where it’s a clarity point, too, because you can be at a point where you can truly let go, or at least have the potential of letting go because it’s just too dense to handle. 

And the flip side of that, I guess, is trying to get a clarity and a spaciality – I suppose people do that. I suppose that is the way it kind of works – developing an understanding and a recognition of something. It still is on the breath, though. You’re still looking at something on the breath, and going into the river. Still  you’re trying to go high on the breath letting go of something. I guess it’s all kind of the same. 

Ultimately I believe we just have to let go of the breath completely. I guess it does need to be looked at from the standpoint of high on the in-breath, just like I look at it high on the out-breath coming down, which is near that. And when it gets like that, maybe it still has to take that last step of letting go completely of the breath, however, just like something that’s coming down as the first thought from the stillness has a pent-upism, you know, to be lived into life, just like the other is a letting go, to go into the stillness.

There isn’t the degree of pain upon the mirror of the heart when you have that recognition, but it still has a small aspect of the breath, it’s still not into the emptiness and the total stillness. But it’s interesting. It’s interesting to note that that’s what it looks like to be high on the in-breath again. 

I would say that’s even above the angelic – as far as a place on the breath – because you don’t necessarily have a value orientation there. You’re kind of at the last thresholds of exasperatingly letting go; exasperatingly in terms of running into the river. The letting go to the recognition of something more, high on the in-breath.

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Only in a purely energetic form are we impervious to the vagaries of life. As humans, we are constantly aware of the weather, the pressure from the culture, from people, and from obligations, plus our own internal pressures. Even the land we live on, the ground itself and what’s deep below, can have an effect on our moods and mannerisms. As we evolve, we can consciously alleviate some of these pressures by being aware of them, but not being swayed by them. In the living of that is where freedom is found. (At the end of this post there are instructions and a link to download this recording to your computer.)

John: My dream and your dream both are dreams that deal with an aspect on which one is found in the breath. 

And, in my aspect of the breath, there is the issue of timing, and then what that looks like in terms of the change – when the timing is invoked in terms of something coming from unconscious into the wakened outer space. But the movement is one of out-breath, of masculine, and it has a timing quality to it. 

In your particular case, you are looking at the overallness, which is the in-breath. And you’re looking at the components of spaciousness, and that it has to have an inclusiveness, an embracing inclusiveness. Essentially, what I keep seeing is happening, is that any kind of qualified identification on the breath, leaves one in this yo-yo journeying effect of trying to put the in-breath and the out-breath, and all of that together, and trying to get it to a point where there’s a total letting go, and you go into the stillness. 

Now, the thing that one has to denote is the stillness was presented in one fell swoop inside of us. As if one could take that in, and on, in one fell swoop. That is possible. But then it’s recognized that we are in the physical and that we work with the breath, and that everything around us is the breath. And so we can’t really, for some reason, take and do the 99.999 times percent inside of ourselves, which is: be the overallness and all-inclusiveness of everything that is, which is then just in the stillness and lets go of all this stuff: pretty darn difficult. 

And so because it’s like that now we are seeing aspects, and learning tidbits, about the direness of the strait that one is in, when one is caught in the breath – in some aspect or another. 

In my particular case, it’s almost like a curiosity, or whatever, or trying to make timing work. In your particular case, it’s the trying to make the overallness more all-inclusive. And the idea of trying to make the timing work on my part involves the opening up of something then that’s in a spaciousness; when this thing opens its eyes, and whatnot, that it’s dealing with the spatial orientation of being awake in the reflectiveness, and the outer, of life.

In your particular case the idea of getting something to accept the greater overallness, or sense that you know is important, because if it doesn’t there is something that pangs or doesn’t quite fit is an aspect, again, of trying to make a pent-up timing come through as a recognition, which, then, is to correspond to a greater overallness. 

So what we’re doing is that we are dreaming in various ways about what it’s like to be this way, or that way, on the breath. My meditation dream provided another set of information, in terms of how one can invoke something with such an intensity that it impacts the molecular nature of your being, which causes then a feedback loop inside of yourself that is played out in the outer. And then just how that is, which is like a report, how that is in terms of being in and under a spell that has to run its course.

Whenever something is at the epitome of an extreme it is driving itself crazy. And it is delving into something that causes its molecular nature to be whiplashed in some regard or another. The living of that, and the going through that, should lead to a qualification of how it is that you’re slamming your molecular structure, and that that, then, haunts you.

The meditation dream was about what this does to you when you are like that. Or, because it’s my dream, it factors me in, in terms of what it’s like for me to be someone that malarkey’s with that a little bit, teases with that, and what that does in terms of dumbing something down in terms of yourself. That was a very interesting report.

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